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When should my daughter be tested again for LD?

Our 13-year-old daughter tests well for reading (consistently the 90+ percentile for her grade level), writes beautifully, and draws/paints exceptionally well. She also has a lovely singing voice and had some success for three years as a Suzuki piano student. (The emphasis with this method is on hearing, rather than reading the music.)

On the other hand, math has been consistently difficult and despite repeated lessons, she has great difficulty interpreting--or even remembering the names of certain musical symbols. (I have assumed that the math and music problems are related.)

In addition, she is very disorganized, and though she will sometimes remember to write assignments in a planner, does not have the presence of mind to check it later. As a result, books stay in the locker or wherever she left them.

She also has serious problems memorizing lines of poetry, songs, or scripts and though she would like to participate in drama clubs, she does not trust that she will find the words at the right moment.

My sense is that this isn't simply a problem of confidence. He is a bright kid but is having serious problems in school. She was tested in second grade when the math problems began to surface. Results were 'inconclusive.' Should she be tested again, and what for?

Thank you,
Mary

The only way to clarify where your daughter's areas of learning strengths and learning weaknesses are is through formal testing. These studies are called psycho-educational evaluations.

If such studies were done at age seven, they would not be valid at age 13. She will need to be retested. These studies will help to clarify her areas of learning abilities and, if present, her areas of learning disabilities.

(June 2006)

How can I learn my basic academic skills when the high school will not help me?

I am an early high school student. I just completed eighth grade but I find that a lot of my skills seem well below my classmates skills. I have had a learning disability since before I can remember. I have dysgraphia, fine motor difficulties, and speech difficulties. However I take a combination of regular, college prep, and honors classes. I am in no "special ed. classes" with the exception of supplemental.

I know for a fact that my skills in grammar, written expression, and spelling are well below the eighth grade level. However, I am receiving no help in those areas outside of my college prep English class. My teacher seem to think of me as "stupid." I have asked for extra help but she seems too busy to provide any after or before school help. So instead she sent me home with English text books to borrow over summer which doesn't help much since it takes me hours to get through one page due to my handwriting difficulties.

I learned very little in her class and I know the skills I lack in are not taught in high school but in elementary and middle school. I fear that without these skills I won't be able to be successful in school and work. A tutor is financially out of question and my case worker, who also happens to be my supplemental teacher, doesn't seem to think that I lack these skills or just doesn't realize it. I find she doesn't pick up on a lot of my difficulties.

How can I learn these skills that I need (e.g. basic grammar, spelling, and vocabulary) if I will not receive it through my classes? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks
Cassie

I am so delighted that you understand your learning disabilities and learning abilities so well. As you know, this means that you have areas of great strength and areas of weakness.

If you have learned good compensatory strategies to minimize your weaknesses, you can handle most classes. However, in some classes, you struggle. Ideally, the special education coordinator for your school would work with the teacher for this class and help to develop any necessary adaptations or accommodations. You seem to be in a difficult situation where no resources are available. And, it seems that you did not get the necessary help in elementary school to compensate for your disabilities.

Don't give up. First, let's get your parents on board. Ask them to read this response. Then, ask them to go to the library and get a copy of a book, The Misunderstood Child. This book will help them understand what help you will need.

Maybe there will be a way to provide private help. Or, maybe, your parents can go to the school and insist on more help than you are now getting. If this does not work, e-mail me again.

Note from LD OnLine: Visit Dr. Tracy Gray's section to see a Tech Expert's response to the same question.

(June 2006)

Debbie - 11 - 03 - 2004

My son was diagnosed with a seizure disorder at age 4. He was put on medication, seizure activity disappeared, and medication stopped by age 7. At age 7 he was diagnosed LD. He has had 4 separate evaluations over the years all indicating he has LD. He has experienced a lot of failure in school, despite attempts by myself, the school, learning support, private school, agencies, counselors, to remediate and help with self-esteem issues. He tested high average IQ, but at age 16 was failing all of his 10th grade classes and being consistently suspended from school for behavior problems. He has been in a wilderness program, and is now enrolled in a residential academic setting. The teacher says she sees no signs of LD. My question is, how can he be tested 4 times for LD, and now at 16, appear to have no signs? I'm very confused and not sure what to do for my son. Any suggestions?

Debbie,
Pennsylvania

I don't blame you for being confused. I am also. If four comprehensive evaluations found your son to have LD, I would accept that he has LD. I can not comment on the current teacher's statements; however, I would trust the test results over the teacher's observations. Of great concern is that he has developed serious emotional problems and now appears to need a special program for students with emotional problems. It will be important for you to work closely with the professionals working with him. If some/many of the emotional problems are a result of the frustrations and failures he experienced because of his LD, he will need help with his academic deficits as well as his emotional and social problems. If he is treated for his emotional problems only without being aware of the impact of the LD, he will be discharged back to a school program set up to fail again. Debbie, first discuss your concerns with the professionals working with your son. Bring along all previous test data. If this meeting is not successful, find a consultant to help you.

(November 2004)


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