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Posted Dec 09, 2006 at 2:03:09 AM
Subject: Fired because of LD
Well, I can officially say that I was fired because of my LD...because I have such difficulties with details, my boss decided to let me go...I let one too many mistakes get past my desk. Fired right before the holidays....sucks!
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jtahern
Joined Dec 08, 2006 Posts: 1
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Dec 10, 2006 10:23:37 PM
Sorry for lose of job. Hopefully you will be able to collect unemployement while you are search for a new job.
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upsetwithmyld
Joined Dec 09, 2006 Posts: 7
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Dec 11, 2006 2:42:54 PM
I probably will...however, the whole ordeal has been totally deflating. If anyone has been tested for LD in the past and has been fired because of it please email me, I would really like to talk.
I would love to talk to someone who is intelligent, but just doesn't seem to fit in the corporate world because of organizational difficulties.
I am pretty sure that I am smart, but I can't seem to fit in anywhere!
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Sacred Journey
Joined Jul 27, 2006 Posts: 6
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Dec 14, 2006 3:36:21 AM
I am sorry to hear about your negative experience. I certainly know what it feels like to exist outside of the world's conventional domains - including that of known LDs. Many of us don't fit into neat little categories.
However, as said by Dr. Tom Shakespeare, “People are disabled not by their bodies but by society. Society needs to understand disability and react to disabled people.”
Don't be too hard on yourself. I know it is difficult, though. I do not know in what line of work you were operating, but perhaps it has happened this way for the best. I hope that things work out positively for you. Keep us updated about your experience.
Best wishes,
-SJ
P.S.
Here is an article written by Dr. Tom Shakespeare that I found inspiring:
Understanding Disability
[Modified by: Sacred Journey on December 14, 2006 12:46 AM]
"We don't see things as they are; we see things as we are." --Unknown
"People seldom see the haulting and painful steps by which the most insignificant success is acheived." --Anne Sullivan
"In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer." --Albert Camus
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BostonWill
Joined Apr 03, 2007 Posts: 3
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Apr 03, 2007 11:41:43 AM
I'm going through the same problem. I'm 28 and have gone through about 7 jobs since graduating.
So I totally feel for you. I think my time in the corporate world is going to end soon and I have to either start my own business or hit the blue collared world (nothing wrong with that as I work at a restaurant at nights).
I'll be just happy finding acceptance.
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nerang
Joined May 28, 2007 Posts: 5
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May 28, 2007 2:00:39 AM
Sorry for you misfortune. It's rough I've been probably been through about 14- 15 jobs. I just got let go about a month ago. I couldn't believe, it's happening again. It makes feel like not wanting to work at all.
But you have too.
Here's what I have done. I learned this from one of my career consultants. She said to take what you learn with you because it adds to your skill level. She also said, you will use that at another employer, and another employer is looking for that skill.
I would also try to work with an organization which works with employers that employ workers with disabilities. It makes a world of a difference.
I didn't understand that for a long time.
Employers actually recieve tax benefits for employing the disabled, so it makes good business sense for them.
Check it out.
Geoff
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lilo321
Joined Jul 11, 2007 Posts: 3
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Jul 11, 2007 8:07:34 PM
I have been there too. But know your limitations. Find a job that you KNOW you can do and take the time to perfect your skill. This might mean going to a technical school or college. Because of my learning disability I can not just get a job anywhere. I decided that I had to narrow my career choice. I went to a LD friendly college and spent years perfecting my future career. This was a good choice because it allowed me to learn at my own pace. It gave me the confidence I need to succeed and a greater sense of job security. It helps to reduce the stress and anxiety that we often feel when trying to hold down a job.
[Modified by: lilo321 on July 11, 2007 08:09 PM]
[Modified by: lilo321 on July 11, 2007 09:06 PM]
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totallygenius
Joined Apr 09, 2006 Posts: 28
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Jul 24, 2007 1:56:59 PM
I have LD also and two summers ago I finally got up the courage to apply for a job at a craft store since I can make anything and I figured I'd be able to help customers and give demonstrations. Unfortunatley they put me at the cash register, an old, outdated cash register that requires the cashier to fix mistakes manually. In other words, there was no way to cancel a mistake with the push of a button. I tried it with the encouragement of my family but I did terribly. Customers were upset and the mannagers were always angry. Cashiers were expected to memorize daily specials and discount percentages. It was a bright, noisy, place where customers would bring armfulls of tiny beads, paper swatches, and little paint bottles. I had to type the prices in Manually. They finally cut my hours back so much that I got the message. I think what made it so hard for me was not feeling that I failed at a job but being publically humilliated everyday. I had to stand at my register with a forced heir of confidence knowing that I was equally as smart as my coworkers yet so unable to show it. I had just turned 19 and I still have anxiety about working now that I'm 21. I'm sure you must feel some of that too...just that pure embarassment.
Since then I have worked as a nanny and this summer I started my own small business, selling the things that I make along with other treasures that I've found. I have my store online via eBay. eBay does all of the math and when customers ask questions, they do it in an email. I have more time to process their questions and answer them intelligently. But none of this would have been possible without God. I hope you have a relationship with God. If not, I'm going to pray for you anyway, God knows jobs are important and I'm confident that theres something out there for you.
~*totallygenius
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upsetwithmyld
Joined Dec 09, 2006 Posts: 7
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Aug 09, 2007 5:50:52 PM
I actually have a college degree, so no sense in going to technical school. I have actually started working in the learning disabilities department at a public school.....the irony.
This is a complete career change for me (before I was in market research), so hopefully this one has a happy ending.
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ninnz
Joined Aug 13, 2007 Posts: 1
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Aug 13, 2007 12:45:11 PM
yes I think you should find a job that will match your disability (im not saying that it will be easy though) but also keep in mind when your employer is still in line for deciding to "let you go" because of your disability. is it because your work is affected by it or is it simply because your employer is not comfortable with you having such disability? there's actually a big difference there... and legal remedy at hand if you know what i mean
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Aly
Joined Aug 01, 2006 Posts: 73
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Aug 20, 2007 5:11:44 PM
You might want to let your new empoyer know (after they have hired you, of course), that you have an LD, if you will in any way need an accomodation. The ADA allows for that, so you have a legal leg to stand on. Of course, you must be able to do the job with the accomodations :-)
"Never give up, never surrender" -Galaxy Quest
“In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity” -Albert Einstein
“Be not afraid of growing slowly;
Be afraid only of standing still”
-Chinese proverb
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stillhere
Joined Aug 27, 2007 Posts: 2
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Aug 27, 2007 8:49:30 PM
I've had about 300 jobs since I started working (I'm 60 now and living on a federal disability grant for a psych. disorder...I never got tested/certified for LD, therefore I officially don't have it!!!) and I lost most of those jobs due to my LD...and yet after all this time I still don't know exactly what's wrong with my "wiring" (I'm really beginning to HATE that expression!!).
It just seems I can't do anything right on the job, anything from adding up figures on an adding machne, to catching the product in a small bag on a conveyer belt, to "remembering" to latch all the cat cages at the shelter so they don't get out at night. When studying medical coding I made more "glitch" type mistakes than logical mistakes, yet I got an A the first time around (online)and a B the second time around (regular class). When I tried to work as a coder (after the first class) I got fired before the end of the first day...for not being able to code. I also have a BA and a college level IQ. (So much for what IQ tests test for.....)
All my life I've been called lazy, unmotivated, degenerate, crazy, developmentally-delayed, and worse...even by my own parents. Also by co-workers. Teachers pretty much never gave a damm, and I slid through school because it's relatively easy to "fake it" in school (at least for me) compared to on the job.
Needless to say I've been endlessly traumatized by this disability, totally marginalized in my social-economic life, have been homeless many times, and forced to live in extremely compromised situations all of my life. My dreams became mud. And my self-esteem...well, one can only try to imagine, but you have to have been there!!
Most things I won't even try anymore, and the very worst thing about all this...is that THE BOSS and/or COWORKERS NEVER UNDERSTAND(S)..especially on the easy jobs that anyone should be able to do. And it's a vicious cycle...no job equals no money therefore no money to invest in a home business through which I could hide my disability a lot more, and thereby experience more success and self respect.
There's still no way I can get a good grasp on exactly what's wrong, although I went for testing once (but never got certified and never followed through with the biofeedback which I considered useless for me) and my short term memory is about zero, although I got much better scores on language things (but I'm not that great that I could be a reporter or a therapist, cause I am not good at following people's line of thinking when it achieves any level (or no level) of complexity. I even washed out as a dry cleaner clerk and as a cashier on a couple of occasions...too many things to do and remember. It's all quite appalling. From the time I was 16 there was nothing in the newspaper want-ads that I thought I could do, and if I did, then I didn't have the credentials. My BA is in psych, (ha ha) but I never worked one day in a professionalor semi-professional capacity because I never got that ground-level experience in...to quality (not to mention other formal qualifications). And for every job that I ever landed, I probably applied for 10 or 20 more.
Well, I have a chance to interview for another kennel job. And after a lifetime of failure and defeat and unspeakable humiliation, I have to decide how to go about telling (or not telling) them about this. I don't want them to decide I'm too damaged, but I don't really want them to know...if there was the slightest chance I can pull it off. All I can remember is when I volunteered at the shelter before, I ended up getting fired for "forgetting" to close about 10 cat cages....impossible I thought....they must have wanted to dump me for some other reason and made up that story....it can make a person so paranoid on top of everything else. I probably won't sleep tonight for worry about this. And all for $7.00 an hour, 30 hours a week. It's tempting to say no. An old friend takes care of me now, and I'd never have to try to work again if I didn't want to. And it's a terrible thing to have to worry about something like this. I'm seeing all these other posts about how people are finding some kind of niche in spite of their problems, and at age 60 I still haven't found mine. Any sincere words would be greatly appreciated!!
[Modified by: stillhere on August 27, 2007 08:54 PM]
[Modified by: stillhere on August 27, 2007 08:56 PM]
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geodob
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Aug 28, 2007 4:46:49 AM
Hi Stillhere and Welcome!
While I'm 53 with a few years to catch up with you.
I know exactly what you are talking about.
Having been sacked from numerous jobs, even really easy ones?
Despite having post-graduate qualifications.
In regard to your interview for the kennel job, I would suggest advising them of your 'disability'.
But the question is how to explain it to them?
Where it can be difficult even explaining it to ourself?
As it's hard know what we can't do, when we can't do it?
But from what you wrote, you seem to have the same sort of 'organizational' thinking problems?
Remembering to do all of the 'things' required?
Though a good solution for this, is to rather than rely on Memory, to make written Check-lists.
So that you can look at it and see what's done and what needs to be done.
Does this make any sense to you?
Geoff,
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stillhere
Joined Aug 27, 2007 Posts: 2
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Aug 29, 2007 2:51:18 AM
Dear Goeff,
Thanks for the advice. The problem is never that cut and dried, and this is why it's so hard to "reach" out. No life is so simple that one only needs a list of what to do. Of course EVERYBODY starting out somewhere has their initial list...but it wasn't cause everyone else was also LD. I have just as must problem getting the "list of what to do" down straight. And you can get so specific that the list can be literally ten thousand items long, know what I mean. The human mind does not work that way, and ultimately, every mini detail of ones life is not meant to be itemized..... anyway, things come up during the day, and no job is so simple that everything can be known in advance. Just the idea that I have to say this seriously...means I'm in too deep....I mean I know you were really trying to offer something helpful...but if something so obvious as writing stuff down REALLY made that much difference...I think I would have known it ages ago. I'll never forget my hideous experience at a burger flipper joint. I was relying on the "cheat sheets" for so long, that I got in everybody's way, and a couple of hours later, THAT job was gone too.... HEAVY SIGH!!! The phone is still flashing for a call I should've picked up 8 hours ago, probably calling me in for an interview, and I'm losing sleep worrying about it, but if I don't pick up by morning, ane more will have slipped through my fingers. Another one slipped through this morning when I couldn't find the road sign for how to get into the bloody place, and so I came home with the little resume (packed with lies) still in my hot little hand.
Thanks for the words though. It's good to feel that somebody cares. Best...... Stillhere
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Testaclese
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Sep 19, 2007 4:10:47 PM
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rogomom2
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Oct 29, 2007 12:02:54 PM
Hi Stillhere:
Your story reminds me of an article I read about a woman who had memory loss because of a car accident. Though it may seem unrelated, it appears that memory issues are one of the key things that have held you back in life--along with perhaps a concern that you are just going to fail no matter what so why try anymore! Anyway, you can read the article here: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/9094237.html.
I think most people find their niche by taking a very honest and hard look at their life. You may not be able to do a job that requires quick service to the public or attention to detail but if a seriously brain injured woman who lost her daughter can hold down a job (granted with much help), then there is hope!
[Modified by: rogomom2 on October 29, 2007 12:03 PM]
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Jo Ann
Joined Apr 11, 2007 Posts: 1
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Jan 04, 2008 4:41:58 PM
I am a special education teacher who just found out that I was LD an ADHD.I found my niche teaching the severe children and having my boss check over important papers and assistants check my quick notes. I've even had an Instructor from the district who teaches class make adaptations for me when I gave her the paper work proving my disabilities. I found out this when I was 45 years old . So the Dr. was surprised what I had done with my life so much so he laughed from shock. I still am self worry about writing and if I'm saying thing gramtitically correct. I also often feel I don't fit in .
I pray the right job comes along for you but don't give up I had to wait for computer berfor I went back to College!!!
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Jane Wilkinson
Joined Oct 01, 2007 Posts: 5
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Mar 12, 2008 12:01:42 PM
Dear upsetwithmyld and stillhere and kind responders, I realize this is a late post, but would still like to make a suggestion. Have you considered doing some later-in-life therapy to help you improve memory and organization skills? It seems that these skills can be helped with work in visual imagery.
At this point in my career I work only with adult learners and have heard so many stories that are heartbreaking. Yet, some improvement can usually be made with the kind of determination I see in many of the responses.
Take a look at our website http://www.understandMORE.com
and click where it says, Why People Have Problems With Comprehension. It may help you see why it is difficult to remember and organize things. We put this little presentation on the web to help other family members understand what some of the issues are, so you may want to ask spouses, parents, siblings or even an understanding employer (Yes, there are a couple) to take a look.
[Modified by: Jane Wilkinson on March 12, 2008 12:04 PM]
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Mandi
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May 22, 2008 2:07:24 AM
Finding jobs that match our disability. I refuse to think of myself as disabled. The day one actually lets society dictate to one what one is, is the day one is truly disabled.
Find a job you like. Find a job that inspires your mind. Don't look for one that doesn't interfere with the 'disfunctioning' of your brain. You and everyone here is able. Maybe *different* than the typical. But in no way disabled. "I think therefore i am" Descartes. however it is spelled... dyslexic i spell foe-net-ic-allee. But i still do spell don't i? Obviously.... So my spelling is different, (it actually makes sense unlike 'ph' making an F sound which is totally irrational altogether.) What is odd is that they promote such irrational spellings and they call themselves typical when their spelling doesn't even make sense, with the rules they created for it. Just look at Shakespeare, they consider him a genius yet that moron spelled his name 7 different ways.... But rather than deifying the rest of us phonetic spellers, they instead insist we are disabled.... Roight.... If i am disabled, they are all clinically insane. Hypocritical nonsense disorder, in my mind is about as vallid as attention deficite disorder.... LD=Learning Different, not Learning disabled.
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mikethedj
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Jun 19, 2008 3:14:46 PM
Quote Mandi:
Finding jobs that match our disability. I refuse to think of myself as disabled. The day one actually lets society dictate to one what one is, is the day one is truly disabled.
I will second that. Honestly, I think society is impaired.
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Mandi
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Jun 22, 2008 11:43:26 AM
I think, you are right. But i think we too are somewhat in certain areas of life somehow designed poorly for functioning within the confines of their disfunction.Some ppl'sthinking is just designed differently than ours....Not better or worse.... Just different....
America's schools on average have scored as the worst in education based on the student's test scores. I find it interesting for that reason that clearly every child needs an IEP but most never get one. Something is very wrong with this system where no one is learning much of anything yet a chosen few are selected to get studied and tortured and educated specially....
It reminds me of music theory at the university i went to for a short time when i was first trying to study. My music theory professor phoned and left a message stating that over 90% of the class was failing she wanted to meet with each and every one of us privately! I called her back and told her politely, when 90% of a class is failing a subject there is something wrong with the teaching of the subject quite clearly. I informed her i needed my time more for other subjects as well as hers and really had no more time for her theory class to meet every day privately. I told her it might be prudent to change her teaching method or something. Turns out, we were all failing because she was teaching the same exact stuff same homework same thing was asked on the homework of us as was asked of those 3 years our seniors. Ofcourse we couldn't succeed. We didn't have the background! Later i took real classes in theory.... Guess what? I understood it all perfectly and was a straight A student. So proving, it was never me. It was her and her teaching.Because over 90% of our class failed. About the same the following year too.... hehehe.... This particular professor was brilliant!!! Now i know just how brilliant she was! Because i can understand her compositions and i can take them apart etc.... She should have been writing music for royalty not teaching a bunch of freshmen. Seriously.... One of the most incredible musical minds i have ever seen.... But truly miserably terrible teacher. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. It is how we use them to contribute positively to the world that is what matters. I am not saying find a job to match your disability. I am saying, find a job that matches your mind. For this unlabled professor, writing symphonies would have been better than teaching. So look at yourself and figure out how your mind can do the most good for society. Challenge yourself and find something that interests you. If you do that, no matter what you may or may not be labled with becomes.... null and void on the grounds that determination and desire to overcome and think creatively come into play. When that happens, i believe there is nothing most of us can't do.
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