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Lindamood-Bell vs Orton-Gillingham ??


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Joined: Feb 03, 2007
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Posted Feb 10, 2007 at 7:54:26 AM
Subject: Lindamood-Bell vs Orton-Gillingham ??

Ok..so I'm trying to figure out what to do for my son.
He's in 2nd grade and struggling. My son has PDD-NOS, but presents like a child with a speech/language impairment and some preocessing difficulties. He has few challenging behaviors and is socially motivated, however his difficutly with his expressive language is
a hindrance. We have been getting lots of different opinions on which direction to take. For those of you who have worked with a child like this, would you suggest Lindamood-Bell (V/V) or an Orton-Gillingham program? He seems to have decent decoding ability, but I'm not sure it's solid. I don't always see him applying those skills when reading. Comprehension is an issue,as is inferencing, predicting and retelling. His visual processing speed is higher than his auditory processing speed. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Linda

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geodob
Joined Feb 06, 2005
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Posted:Feb 10, 2007 11:30:51 PM

Hi Linda, in your other topic you wrote: "I did ask him if he could "hear the words" in his head and he said yes, but honestly I'm not sure of it." Perhaps you could look at this again, if anything, just to rule it out as a possible issue?
Yet it is not a simple thing to explain to a 2nd grader. Where it might be better to ask him if he can; 'imagine the sound of words in his head'?

Though their is a complication, where often they can use 'visual cues' to recall the sound of a word in their mind. So that looking at the word or a visual image. Is used for Auditory Retrieval.
Thinking also then relies on Visualising, for Auditory Retrieval.
Which can conceal that they cant 'freely sub-vocalise'.
So maybe you could explore this just a little further, just to clarify it?
Geoff,

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KristiLA
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Posted:Mar 01, 2007 11:18:48 PM

I am not familiar with Orton Gillingham, but we sent both of our sons to Lindamood-Bell. Each spent a full summer with the program. Our older son (he was 12 when he attended) performed tremendously. He has ADD and reading disability. His school situation has completely turned around. Our younger son attended last summer and unfortunately didn't fare as well. He did get some basic skills down, and it has helped him some, but not nearly the success we had with our first son. If you can afford it, you should take a shot at it.

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jmmom
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Posted:Mar 07, 2007 11:33:48 AM

KristLA,
Thank you for your feedback. We don't have an "offical"
LMB Center close by, but there is a woman locally who runs a learning center and utilizes many of their programs. I have known a couple of familes who have used her and they felt she was experienced. Are there any distinguishable differences in your son's abilites that might account for the different outcome?

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darteach28
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Posted:Mar 19, 2007 8:08:26 PM

I have used both Orton-Gillingham, Lindamood Bell LIPS program and Visual/Verbal section of the program. I found both to be very beneficial. I would have to say Lindamood is more for speech problems. The program doesn't get into the comprehension and visualizing piece until well after the child has mastered the basics of sounds. LIPS focuses on how your mouth appears and feels when your speaking while OG focuses on visualizes the letters rather than your lips. Hope this helps! I am currently doing research on the Orton-Gillingham method so if anyone has any info. articles to read, or informative websites please advise. Thanks.

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kavity
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Posted:Apr 16, 2007 4:02:36 AM

i am currently looking for professional development opportunities specifically in the orton-gillingham methodology...do you have any suggestions?i would ideally like online courses or short summer courses.any advice would be much appreciated. thanks!

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Rachel
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Posted:Jun 01, 2007 12:14:18 PM

Check out the unofficial center carefully. They may have been trained in the programs, but how they choose to implement them is just as important. You really need intensive intervention, 5 days a week, at least two hours a day. Any less than that and your results are compromised.

Someone else on the forum said that the programs were primarily for speech and that comprehension didn't come until much later in the program. I'm not sure why they said that. The three main programs are self-contained. The appropriate program is recommended based on a thorough evaluation. No one would have to wait through a program they didn't need to get to the one they did need.

Rachel

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KristLA,
Thank you for your feedback. We don't have an "offical"
LMB Center close by, but there is a woman locally who runs a learning center and utilizes many of their programs. I have known a couple of familes who have used her and they felt she was experienced. Are there any distinguishable differences in your son's abilites that might account for the different outcome?

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