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Posted Nov 14, 2002 at 9:15:50 AM
Subject: Movement

I mentioned this briefly in another post but wanted to add something. I have been asking my son to do some sensory integration exercises before sitting down to do work. I had felt that it made a tremendous difference. I have also used it when he started to get annoying with his little brother; when he was being a nudge of sorts. It always turned him around and made him more cooperative and even keeled.
He does a game I bought from www.balametrics.com that is supposed to help his saccadic eye movements by addressing fixation. He has to move blocks numbered from 1 -26. He is timed. He was acting annoying so I kind yelled just go do that game to get him out of my hair. He went to do it and his time was 4 minutes 25 seconds. This is a pretty bad time for him.
He was kind of wired so I asked him to jump of the stairs, in a controlled manner, he has to land on 2 feet and not throw himself to the floor. He has to also watch and grasp my hands when he lands and keep his eyes fixated on my hands through the jump.

He was calmer after about 5 jumps, so I asked him to do the game again. He scored 3 minutes and 7 seconds. This is pretty close to his best. Just a little objective info on something that always seemed to work.

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Posted:Nov 14, 2002 9:27:51 AM

So how many steps does he jump from? We have tile on our floor so wonder about that. Does he have shoes on? Where are your hands? Why do you think this helps?

I know when my son did Fast Forward he used to go out and ride his bike between games. It seemed to help.

Beth

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Posted:Nov 14, 2002 9:54:39 AM

Beth,

He jumps from the third step but he started at the second. Don't go so high that he is out of control, it has to be a movement that is controlled. Shoes are on.
I stand about 3-4 feet from the bottom. You can also use a stick or broom handle to grab, I think it is a little easier to see and we did start with that. Just hold your hands or the stick out in front of you.

One other thing that I forgot to add; don't overdo it. If my son does too many jumps like 15 or 20 he gets hyper. In the beginning he had to do more to find his balance because the first few jumps had him landing on the floor on his hands and knees. Once the jumps are controlled, I wouldn't do more than 5.

He also throws the socks into the laundry basket for variation.

I remember reading in the, "The Out of Sync Child," that kids need the right sensory diet. I think that is what this accomplishes. My son has a hyporeactive vestibular which means he needs proprioceptive input. (Funny, that I even understant that sentence.) Also, I remember reading a study on kids who have ADHD who wore weighted vests to school and it improved their attention. I had considered buying my son the weighted blanket from www.pfot.com but it is $250. Also, this activity was recommended by my son's IM instructor, we used to use it before doing IM and it seemed to help.

Funny about he bike thing. When my son was in his former stressful class he used to get up in the morning and ride his bike. He always came home from that ride in a good mood.

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Posted:Nov 14, 2002 10:16:29 AM

I even understood that sentence!!! Pretty scary. My son has some of the same characteristics. He was doing jump rope for Neuronet and he preferred and did better barefooted, which gave my husband fits. His therapist told me that he knows what he needs and to let him be.

Is your son a toe walker?

Beth

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Posted:Nov 14, 2002 10:21:51 AM

Linda and Beth, my son too seems to benefit from moving. My oldest son has been offered rides to school every morining but refuses to take them. He says that walking to school every morining gets his mind going and wakes him up. When school is over he prefers to walk because he uses this as his wind down time. We have also noted that the classes he does best in is first hour, the hour right after band, and the hour right after PE. When he has 2 classes in a row where he needs to be still and listen the second class is usually a disaster. He is dx'd with ADD, inattentive type-what are your sons dx's. Just curious if it is part of the syndorme.

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Posted:Nov 14, 2002 10:34:28 AM

My son too has been diagnosed with ADD-inattentive. But I think the movement improvements are more related sensory integration issues---he has also been diagnosed with SID. Wonder about your son too--because I think what you describe is a classic pattern for SID kids.

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Posted:Nov 14, 2002 10:54:45 AM

Beth I do believe you are right. Both my boys seem to exhibit patterns of SID. They are both sensative to noise, they both have a dislike for certain textures, both appear to learn best after movement activities. Other notes of curiousity they both seem to not know where or how to place their body during sports. It is commical to try and watch them play a sport such as basketball because they just seem so lost out there. When the oldest was evaluated for speech in 7th grade the examiner noted that my son seemed to be confused when going from place to place. The oldest use to have difficulty with planning when it came to writing but the school seems to have remediated this difficult. Neither of the boys have ever been specifically tested for SID. My youngest son falls on the autism spectrum and I think the experts have difficulty sorting out just what is what with him.

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Posted:Nov 14, 2002 12:19:52 PM

He isn't a toe walker. He loves movement though. I wonder about the barefeet thing. He never has seemed to prefer barefeet as far as I can recall. I hadn't ever given it much thought before though. Maybe he would have done better with his feet at IM if he did it barefoot. That is an interesting idea for next time.

Another thing that he loves his deep hugs from me. I really give him a good squeeze and you can feel all the tension just leaving his body.

Maybe it is just love in the works but somehow I think the deep pressure does just a bit more.

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Posted:Nov 14, 2002 12:32:18 PM

I think my son has some ADD but I am still trying to tease out the sensory integration issues which he was diagnosed with by 2 seperate occupational therapists before I have him evaluated for ADD. I think SI and ADD can look very similar; I almost think in someways they really are the same thing. You will get a different diagnosis from a Sensory integration occupational therapist than you will from a doctor who specializes on ADD. It is also possible that alot of these kids just have both. I have decided to go to a vision therapist that will also do body work to address the SI issues. (Thanks Beth for helping me clarify the type of VT to go to.) If this doesn't work I will probably do more interventions that will work on his attention.

It is all so complex with so many different disciplines that have very different perspectives all of which have merit in my very humble opinion.

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Posted:Nov 14, 2002 11:18:03 PM

I work at a school that includes a Foundation for helping children with sensory integration dysfunctions. There are OT's on staff daily working with these children in small groups. Some children have an "Adaptive PE" session, specially designed for them. Some also visit the OT's whenever they need "an OT break". They hang from bars, climb ropes, move around on scooters, squeeze putty, eat pretzels, chew gum, or whatever else the OT's determine would either rev up or calm down their systems. The OT's also advise the regular teaching staff about how to incorporate this into the regular classroom. After experiencing some of these kids within the classroom before OT therapy, and then afterwards, I can attest to the wonderful results when their sensory diet is fed the right combination. I wish more schools would recognize this area of education.

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Posted:Nov 15, 2002 10:25:07 AM

That sounds like an amazing place. You are so lucky to work at such an cutting edge school. Thanks so much for telling us about it!

You just made me remember another aspect of sensory diet. My son used to chew on his shirt sleeves. When he does this I have him brush his tongue, the insides of his cheeks and his lips while brushing his teeth. It stops the behaviour and he doesn't really need to do it anymore.

When he is stressed he will revert back to the shirt sleave chewing and I will start the mouth brushing again. It is amazing that it works.

My son will tell me that he doesn't want to do some of the things he does, like merciless teazing his little brother, but he can't seem to stop himself. Now that I know what he needs instead of yelling at him I will give him some sensory input and I can better help him to manage his behaviour. I expect him to do his part which he is always willing to do, but I also know he still needs my help.

We really have such a nice relationship. He knows I am there to help him get through the tough times and he really is the sweetest little guy.

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Posted:Nov 15, 2002 11:01:15 AM

Thanks for the wonderful tip Linda my boys do on occasssion chew on their clothes. For both my boys spinning themselves about, running in circles or darting about seem to be other favorite activities. They do not do this all the time but they will get up all of a sudden and go into one of these activities. Both boys are considered to by hypoactive and slow moving. They both shuffle their feet, move about slowly, and seem to be experts in daydreaming. Perhaps there are more sensory issues going on then I ever imagined. The school is going to look at the youngest son due to writing difficulties maybe I will suggest she check him for sensory intergration issues.

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Posted:Nov 15, 2002 8:03:09 PM

Back in our NACD days we would do deep pressure rubs and trigeminal (sp?) stimulation for sensory integration issues. My dd loved these and we did them when she was 'out of focus'. I would have her drink a big glass of water (someone on this board had recommended the water) and then we would start with her fingers, squeezing each finger and move up the arm - squeeze fairly hard. Then repeat on the toes and legs moving up the thigh. The trigenminal stimulation is a very soft, light rub around the face, forehead, sides of head over ears etc.

This was the only way we got thru Audiblox!

Another idea that helped was the Sound Health Series - we used Thinking Series CD. I have given this to several teachers as XMAS gifts and those that actually used them told me that it made a big difference in their class. All the kids focused better and there was a difference in those kids that have more of an issue.

There is also a TLP CD that focuses on Sensory Integration. Haven't used that one tho.

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Posted:Nov 15, 2002 10:30:56 PM

Deep pressure is REALLY valuable! There are kids who reject their parents' efforts to touch them UNLESS it's using deep pressure. You might not be able to lightly hug them but they accept a big enveloping bear hug. Light massage on the back is horrible whereas heavy pressure - really bearing down on the shoulders - is welcomed.

It always reminds me of Temple Grandin's squeeze machine. She instinctively knew this was something that calmed her.

Some people use those sensory brushes on their arms and backs.

Another really good exercise is to have the child lean into a wall, kind of like the runner's stretch. This provides that deep pressure feeling and can be done anywhere. We have kids in our classes doing this.

Hanging from a bar (like a monkey bar) provides the same feedback. So does carrying something heavy. We'll have kids carry some heavy books down the hallway just before we're about to begin a lesson. Or drink a glass of water.

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Posted:Nov 16, 2002 10:20:53 AM

I tried this a.m. to put my wrap around ankle weights on my son's shoulders. He was getting a little hyper and annoying so instead of scoulding we did the jumps I described, he was a little too far gone this time, so I added the weights and wouldn't you know he is sitting calmly watching TV with his brother.

My son has always loved to carry heavy things. I am going to try that deep massage on him next time.

I am trying to have him see just how this helps and have him learn to do it for himself.
I want him to see when he needs this type of stimulation and either do it himself or request it from me.

Great suggestions, thanks so much.

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Posted:Nov 17, 2002 11:27:58 PM

Linda,

I had my son try it this weekend. He first showed me how he used the bannister to swing down. Not exactly what I what I had in mind!!! But anyway, he put his shoes on and jumped from the fourth step and landed on on his feet, grasping my hand. Told me he does this all the time at school (his room is on second floor). Had him do it about five times and didn't notice any effect but did find it interesting that he does this on his own.

Beth

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Posted:Nov 18, 2002 1:34:05 AM

Another good subject here! My son does a lot of these things naturally and I've come to believe that "movement" breaks are healthy and "therapeutic."

One thing my son really likes to do during breaks is create elaborate obstacle courses in the back yard. I've never told him to do this, but he just does it.

Sometimes I wonder if some kids with SID naturally seek therapeutic experiences. I realize not all of them do (some avoid the sensory input they need), but it's quite interesting how some appear to seek it quite intensively. When my son was younger it seemed like he was "driven" to perform certain motor tasks. Even some that were difficult he would repeat over and over.

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Posted:Nov 18, 2002 9:23:20 AM

Did you try doing it before something he usually has difficulty with? I do it before eye exercises and before homework.
I find him more compliant and more attentive.

Do you think your son is successfully integrated or do you think he still has SI issues?

It is interesting that he does it himself. "The Out of Sync Child," mentions that the best SI therapy is driven by the child. I think I need to reread that book.

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Posted:Nov 18, 2002 9:34:59 AM

No, I didn't. I will try it tonight before he does his homework. He did tell me he likes to do it best in bare feet but I wouldn't let him jump off more than the third step without shoes.

My son is much improved but I think he still has some SI issues--the liking of bare feet, for example. He likes to run and jump in bare feet rather than shoes. Good thing we live in Florida!! We were doing jump rope with Neuronet and he preferred and did do better in bare feet.

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Posted:Nov 18, 2002 1:10:25 PM

My son is and always has been a toe walker, although he doesn it less now. He needs motion as well. We just returned from Disney world, and he went on every roller coaster imaginable. He loved it.

He needs motion while thinking. Sometimes he'll tell me he just needs to think and then he does this funny looking skipping thing around the house. Our psychiatrist said sometimes kids with "soft" neurological signs like toe walking need this type of motor activitiy.

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Posted:Nov 18, 2002 1:14:47 PM

As we've noticed before - the experts often see the child through their own area of expertise, which doesn't take into consideration the complexities of the issues, or of the children.

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