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our son is a 5th grader who has adhd and dysgraphia. the school will not allow him special education [we are disagreeing] and at this team meeting, his [reg.] teacher said that she has tried eveything she knows but is still not able to reach and teach him to his ability [iq in the 130s]. he is so diagorganized and off task that work isn’t geting done or poorly done.no other teams members offered her any support or ideas.your thoughts are appreciated, thanks, ash

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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Ash, I have 25 years of special education experience behind me. Does he qualify for special education? What about a 504 plan? Don’t give up, I hear your frustration. Go to www.pleasetutorme.com. Can we help? I would love to talk further with you about him. JudyGreat online tutoring site - www. pleasetutorme.com This site provides online tutoring for children of all academic levels and needs. It is a subscription service that can be tailored to meet the specific needs of the child. Each lesson is highly individualized and prepared by the educational director. Consultation with the parent is completed initially with additional conversations/consultations completed with all academic professionals involved, if the parent so desires.Over 25 years of teaching experience, diagnostic assessment and the expertise of conducting IEP teams and writing IEP’s comes with our educational director and staff. Visit www.pleasetutorme.com Email [email protected]

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: The combination of ADHD and dysgraphia is a challenging one. Many of the tasks given in school will necessitate writing. If your son is dysgraphic, he will not be able to carry out those assigned tasks. His ADHD may may writing and other tasks equally difficult.Could he bring his work home where he could work one on one and in the quiet of home? That might help to get his work done.Could he have a laptop or an Alphasmart which would help him to write and possibly help him to stay on task by being intrigued with his Alphasmart?our son is a 5th grader who has adhd and dysgraphia. the school will
: not allow him special education [we are disagreeing] and at this
: team meeting, his [reg.] teacher said that she has tried eveything
: she knows but is still not able to reach and teach him to his
: ability [iq in the 130s]. he is so diagorganized and off task that
: work isn’t geting done or poorly done.: no other teams members offered her any support or ideas.: your thoughts are appreciated, thanks, ash

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: Could he bring his work home where he could work one on one and in
: the quiet of home?they let him go out to a quiet place already.That might help to get his work done. homework takes 4 hours and not all done already, adding classwork to that would be doom.: Could he have a laptop or an Alphasmart which would help him to write
: and possibly help him to stay on task by being intrigued with his
: Alphasmart?the team would not offer anything to our son nor his reg. teacher. we feel badly for both of them.we got him an organizer for xmas and principal said that he would eventually have to be weened off of it!!! the sped dir. stated that he does not what our son to become more ‘enabled’.thank you for your care, ash: our son is a 5th grader who has adhd and dysgraphia. the school will

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: Ash, I have 25 years of special education experience behind me. Does
: he qualify for special education?it took nearly 5 years to get an eval. and they just said no sped, are refusing to grant IEE,What about a 504 plan?team would not give his teacher any suggestions.Don’t
: give up, I hear your frustration. Go to www.pleasetutorme.com. Can
: we help?guess not because we have to exsist on $10,000 a year. and it does not seem you help distraught teachers there, ither. thanks anyway. ashI would love to talk further with you about him. Judy: Great online tutoring site - www. pleasetutorme.com This site
: provides online tutoring for children of all academic levels and
: needs. It is a subscription service that can be tailored to meet
: the specific needs of the child. Each lesson is highly
: individualized and prepared by the educational director.
: Consultation with the parent is completed initially with
: additional conversations/consultations completed with all academic
: professionals involved, if the parent so desires.Over 25 years of
: teaching experience, diagnostic assessment and the expertise of
: conducting IEP teams and writing IEP’s comes with our educational
: director and staff. Visit www.pleasetutorme.com Email
: [email protected]

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: they let him go out to a quiet place already.A quiet place at school and a quiet place at home are two different things.Does he get one on one supervision in that quiet place at school? ADHD children often need more than quiet. They need help staying on task even when the room is quiet.What is seems like you’re really asking,though, is how to get the school to make modifications and accomodations for him. The way that’s usually attempted is through formal identification of a child and the writing of an IEP. Even with that, it can be hard. Without that, all you have to depend on is the kindness and or professionalism of the school staff.It sounds as if the classroom teacher is willing to do something. She has the power to modify his homework if it’s taking him 4 hours. She does not need anyone else’s approval to do that.Where is the school psychologist in all this?Are they trying to force you to put your son on medication? Have you talked around and found other parents whose children have ADHD or ADD or any kind of learning difference? What have they done in this interesting school?Some people when pushed to the limit call lawyers.: That might help to get his work done. homework takes 4 hours and not
: all done already, adding classwork to that would be doom.: the team would not offer anything to our son nor his reg. teacher. we
: feel badly for both of them.: we got him an organizer for xmas and principal said that he would
: eventually have to be weened off of it!!! the sped dir. stated
: that he does not what our son to become more ‘enabled’.: thank you for your care, ash

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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Ask the principal why a child would need to be weaned off an organizer. How many of us adults would be lost without our’s? I know I would.Have you ever checked out the C.H.A.D.D. website? I suggest that. You haven’t said your son has ADD issues, but they have so many great organization tips; you’ll probably find it useful.I’d suggest contacting your state chapter of the L.D.A. also. They have comprehensive newsletters, and can make referrals to advocates and learning specialists.Pardon my crudeness, but it sounds like the administration of your school has their collective head up their ass! You need to start networking in your area to find ways to assert your son’s legal rights. Good luck!

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: Have you ever tried medication? I have seen a world of difference, sometimes it is the only thing that will really address those issues and dysgraphia sometimes clears up!

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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:Hi Ash, I know lots of folks have differing opinions about meds,but I know for my sons, especially my 6th grader, nothing would get done without it. Actually it is amazing what he accomplishes when he is on his Ritalin. As for accommodations, you and his teacher can come up with things like reducing the # of math problems or spelling words if those are problems. My son also has textbooks at home and uses a planner that all teachers have to sign(we have a contract with mmy son to get those) which ensures that homework assignments get written down, correctly. For the dysgraphia, you and the teacher can reduce the amount of written work required, or let your son do alternate assignments, short answer instead of essays on tests that kind of thing. As an aside my 6th grader is qualified under OHI for his ADD, he spent 5th grade in resource for lang. arts, here in midde school he is fully included with support in the classrooms. When he was originally qualified, he was eval. by the school, the teacher was able to say the ADD affected his performance in class, he had been in reading classes for 4 years, and his standardized test scores were in single digits consistently yet he tested with average intelligence. I showed examples of his schoolwork and the progress reports from teachers that stated that he was working hard etc. but was not being successful in his schoolwork. I say all that to point out that your child should be able to qualify for sped. you may need to take further steps to get those things for him. Not all the accommodations I mentioned have to be in an IEP, but it does help to get stuff in writing so all teachers have to follow them. Obviously from the postings you may read on this web site not all schools are willing to do what is right, you have to push. Other folks can give you more details on what to do to get what your child needs, I know there is lots of help just on this web site and it gives links to others. Looking up your rights in the IDEA laws is a good place to start also.Best wishes to you and your son, Amyour son is a 5th grader who has adhd and dysgraphia. the school will
: not allow him special education [we are disagreeing] and at this
: team meeting, his [reg.] teacher said that she has tried eveything
: she knows but is still not able to reach and teach him to his
: ability [iq in the 130s]. he is so diagorganized and off task that
: work isn’t geting done or poorly done.: no other teams members offered her any support or ideas.: your thoughts are appreciated, thanks, ash

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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Ash, I have 25 years of special education experience behind me. Does he qualify for special education? What about a 504 plan? Don’t give up, I hear your frustration. Go to www.pleasetutorme.com. Can we help? I would love to talk further with you about him. JudyGreat online tutoring site - www. pleasetutorme.com This site provides online tutoring for children of all academic levels and needs. It is a subscription service that can be tailored to meet the specific needs of the child. Each lesson is highly individualized and prepared by the educational director. Consultation with the parent is completed initially with additional conversations/consultations completed with all academic professionals involved, if the parent so desires.Over 25 years of teaching experience, diagnostic assessment and the expertise of conducting IEP teams and writing IEP’s comes with our educational director and staff. Visit www.pleasetutorme.com Email [email protected]

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: The combination of ADHD and dysgraphia is a challenging one. Many of the tasks given in school will necessitate writing. If your son is dysgraphic, he will not be able to carry out those assigned tasks. His ADHD may may writing and other tasks equally difficult.Could he bring his work home where he could work one on one and in the quiet of home? That might help to get his work done.Could he have a laptop or an Alphasmart which would help him to write and possibly help him to stay on task by being intrigued with his Alphasmart?our son is a 5th grader who has adhd and dysgraphia. the school will
: not allow him special education [we are disagreeing] and at this
: team meeting, his [reg.] teacher said that she has tried eveything
: she knows but is still not able to reach and teach him to his
: ability [iq in the 130s]. he is so diagorganized and off task that
: work isn’t geting done or poorly done.: no other teams members offered her any support or ideas.: your thoughts are appreciated, thanks, ash

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: Could he bring his work home where he could work one on one and in
: the quiet of home?they let him go out to a quiet place already.That might help to get his work done. homework takes 4 hours and not all done already, adding classwork to that would be doom.: Could he have a laptop or an Alphasmart which would help him to write
: and possibly help him to stay on task by being intrigued with his
: Alphasmart?the team would not offer anything to our son nor his reg. teacher. we feel badly for both of them.we got him an organizer for xmas and principal said that he would eventually have to be weened off of it!!! the sped dir. stated that he does not what our son to become more ‘enabled’.thank you for your care, ash: our son is a 5th grader who has adhd and dysgraphia. the school will

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: Ash, I have 25 years of special education experience behind me. Does
: he qualify for special education?it took nearly 5 years to get an eval. and they just said no sped, are refusing to grant IEE,What about a 504 plan?team would not give his teacher any suggestions.Don’t
: give up, I hear your frustration. Go to www.pleasetutorme.com. Can
: we help?guess not because we have to exsist on $10,000 a year. and it does not seem you help distraught teachers there, ither. thanks anyway. ashI would love to talk further with you about him. Judy: Great online tutoring site - www. pleasetutorme.com This site
: provides online tutoring for children of all academic levels and
: needs. It is a subscription service that can be tailored to meet
: the specific needs of the child. Each lesson is highly
: individualized and prepared by the educational director.
: Consultation with the parent is completed initially with
: additional conversations/consultations completed with all academic
: professionals involved, if the parent so desires.Over 25 years of
: teaching experience, diagnostic assessment and the expertise of
: conducting IEP teams and writing IEP’s comes with our educational
: director and staff. Visit www.pleasetutorme.com Email
: [email protected]

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: they let him go out to a quiet place already.A quiet place at school and a quiet place at home are two different things.Does he get one on one supervision in that quiet place at school? ADHD children often need more than quiet. They need help staying on task even when the room is quiet.What is seems like you’re really asking,though, is how to get the school to make modifications and accomodations for him. The way that’s usually attempted is through formal identification of a child and the writing of an IEP. Even with that, it can be hard. Without that, all you have to depend on is the kindness and or professionalism of the school staff.It sounds as if the classroom teacher is willing to do something. She has the power to modify his homework if it’s taking him 4 hours. She does not need anyone else’s approval to do that.Where is the school psychologist in all this?Are they trying to force you to put your son on medication? Have you talked around and found other parents whose children have ADHD or ADD or any kind of learning difference? What have they done in this interesting school?Some people when pushed to the limit call lawyers.: That might help to get his work done. homework takes 4 hours and not
: all done already, adding classwork to that would be doom.: the team would not offer anything to our son nor his reg. teacher. we
: feel badly for both of them.: we got him an organizer for xmas and principal said that he would
: eventually have to be weened off of it!!! the sped dir. stated
: that he does not what our son to become more ‘enabled’.: thank you for your care, ash

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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Ask the principal why a child would need to be weaned off an organizer. How many of us adults would be lost without our’s? I know I would.Have you ever checked out the C.H.A.D.D. website? I suggest that. You haven’t said your son has ADD issues, but they have so many great organization tips; you’ll probably find it useful.I’d suggest contacting your state chapter of the L.D.A. also. They have comprehensive newsletters, and can make referrals to advocates and learning specialists.Pardon my crudeness, but it sounds like the administration of your school has their collective head up their ass! You need to start networking in your area to find ways to assert your son’s legal rights. Good luck!

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: Have you ever tried medication? I have seen a world of difference, sometimes it is the only thing that will really address those issues and dysgraphia sometimes clears up!

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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:Hi Ash, I know lots of folks have differing opinions about meds,but I know for my sons, especially my 6th grader, nothing would get done without it. Actually it is amazing what he accomplishes when he is on his Ritalin. As for accommodations, you and his teacher can come up with things like reducing the # of math problems or spelling words if those are problems. My son also has textbooks at home and uses a planner that all teachers have to sign(we have a contract with mmy son to get those) which ensures that homework assignments get written down, correctly. For the dysgraphia, you and the teacher can reduce the amount of written work required, or let your son do alternate assignments, short answer instead of essays on tests that kind of thing. As an aside my 6th grader is qualified under OHI for his ADD, he spent 5th grade in resource for lang. arts, here in midde school he is fully included with support in the classrooms. When he was originally qualified, he was eval. by the school, the teacher was able to say the ADD affected his performance in class, he had been in reading classes for 4 years, and his standardized test scores were in single digits consistently yet he tested with average intelligence. I showed examples of his schoolwork and the progress reports from teachers that stated that he was working hard etc. but was not being successful in his schoolwork. I say all that to point out that your child should be able to qualify for sped. you may need to take further steps to get those things for him. Not all the accommodations I mentioned have to be in an IEP, but it does help to get stuff in writing so all teachers have to follow them. Obviously from the postings you may read on this web site not all schools are willing to do what is right, you have to push. Other folks can give you more details on what to do to get what your child needs, I know there is lots of help just on this web site and it gives links to others. Looking up your rights in the IDEA laws is a good place to start also.Best wishes to you and your son, Amyour son is a 5th grader who has adhd and dysgraphia. the school will
: not allow him special education [we are disagreeing] and at this
: team meeting, his [reg.] teacher said that she has tried eveything
: she knows but is still not able to reach and teach him to his
: ability [iq in the 130s]. he is so diagorganized and off task that
: work isn’t geting done or poorly done.: no other teams members offered her any support or ideas.: your thoughts are appreciated, thanks, ash

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